Megan Young: Data, Decision-Making, & Performance Coaching in the MLS

This episode features a conversation with Megan, a performance expert with a background spanning professional soccer, collegiate athletics, and personal health. Broadcasting from the Pacific Northwest during a busy soccer season, Megan shares insights into the demands of high-level competition and the evolving landscape of athlete performance. The discussion explores how training, recovery, and overall wellness intersect, offering a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to perform at an elite level — both on and off the field.

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Megan thank you so much for joining me today
how you doing great thanks for having me of

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course I understand that that sun is coming out in
Seattle which means I know you got to get outside

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the house soon but uh tell me what's going on
in the Northwest um it is March it is soccer

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season so we actually have a game tonight we're
in Champions Cup with the Seattle Sounders so I

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think we're playing Cruz aul tonight and yeah that
in between the middle of MLS kickoffs so uh busy

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time here but exced exting time all right and I
uh I showed you off air I had a mug from Stoneway

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Cafe so first question is number one are you a fan
of course and question number two is what is your

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order when you're there okay so back when ston
w was at the old spot at the bottom of the hill

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that's when I would always go I would travel out
to Seattle to see my partner we were doing long

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distance and I go down there I get the breakfast
burrito duh um so it just depends on what your

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is though so sometimes the pastries they have
on on Deck just from the bakery are incredible

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so if that also happened that's a Vibe uh I
think your first answer was the right answer

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which was breakfast burrito yeah um all right
well really excited to talk to you today about

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you know performance and uh you know the
world of performance in soccer as well and

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I understand your background is very rich in
experience spanning from professional soccer

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Collegiate Athletics and you know even your own
personal health so how these things really shaped

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your philosophy and and your principles as a
performance coach yeah I mean the great thing

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is regardless of sport regardless of like my own
story or my own golden retriever in the background

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is that physiology is physiology right and science
is science so it's taking conceptual logic and

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applying that in different lenses and sport
is one of the coolest I guess uh lenses to use

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that because it's entertainment for people um that
aren't in professional sports but when you're in

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the Wheelhouse of the team behind the team in
professional sports there's so much that goes

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into that and um you need the years of expertise
um to be able to make the five minute decision

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right and that's where games are one and lost and
that's where the big calls are made is having all

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the expertise to build the systems and hire
the right people to have on the team yeah

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awesome thank you and you know I've heard you talk
about before about having no bad days as part of

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your outlook you know how does that mindset also
translate into working with these high performance

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athletes yeah I mean I think it's the two very
different things like it's not saying that people

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can't have bad days emotionally like everyone
shows up in a different space right and it's also

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having Grace and for people that you meet outside
of work and understanding everyone's going through

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something different um but what I meant more
by that was um in the cancer specific Community

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your mindset is also it is one of the tools in
your toolbx just like being an athlete and if

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you're going through I just spoke to a amazing
group up here in uh Seattle of cancer survivors

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and you know one of the things that helped me in
that Outlook is there wasn't a bad day um because

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you're still in the fight and you have one job
and that's like that's survive so um I think that

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the people that support that team just like what
I do in professional sports it's the team behind

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the team that's not showing you everything they
have going on and when they do come in to see you

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or you know be with you or have a procedure
or anything like that they put on that face

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of like you know what I don't get to have a bad
day because this person's going through the worst

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moment of their life potentially and I'm going to
show up for them and then trying to bring that in

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as a coach is like um some coaches call it like
bringing the juice every day it's like regardless

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of what I have going on I'm going to show up
it doesn't mean that I can't be authentic and

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say like hey I'm struggling this is happening or
whatever but I have to I have to bring that juice

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every day I have to show up and be willing to do
the job and in our job it is being emotionally

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available it is um being able to balance point
between 16-year-olds moving into their first

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apartment and uh 30-year-olds becoming firsttime
dads and all of the things in between right and

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there's a lot happen happening within the human
um I love one of my friends Vernon says you know

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it's um it's humans are complex but they're not
complicated U everything we do is complex but

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it doesn't have to be complicated when you can
show up and hold space and then have logic and

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rationale and reasoning at the end of the day like
there are many big decisions to make and a lot of

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small ones along the way and how you treat people
but relationships are what going to take you from

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one level to the next yeah that's awesome well
said Thank you and for you as you go through this

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this daytoday um work week and then week to week
month to month do you have a trigger or something

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in your day that's a reminder maybe a poster
just like some sort of way to flip the switch and

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quote bring the juice yeah I mean I think um uh I
think when I get to work like uh in football clubs

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anywhere in the world right like you probably have
somewhere that your gear is stored your training

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gear and it's like once you put on the uniform
that day it's like I'm coach now and so it's that

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when I put the clothes on to taking them off and
it's very different than college right at College

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all your gear is at your house it's like okay on
Mondays we wear orange Tuesdays we wear blue or

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whatever but in professional sports it's like you
go to work but then you prepare for the work there

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a lot of the times and I love that within soccer
culture it's you know you put on the pants you put

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on the training jacket you zip it up you have the
crest or the badge on your chest and that's when

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the the day starts that's great thank you and I'm
really excited uh for later of our conversation

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we're going to talk more about that human element
side of things and how that plays a role in some

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of your decision-making but if we can jump into
maybe this quote load management side of soccer

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which you know load management especially with
the NBA in the last few years has picked up um a

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lot of steam uh in the news and people are talking
about it more it seems even though to you may just

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seem we've been doing this for a long period of
time that's what training is it is load management

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um regardless there are more conversations
surrounding that so um soccer you know there

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are congested schedules there's travel sometimes
interruptions for international play how do you

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approach uh in a general sense as load management
for your players across a long season yeah I mean

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it always starts with the competitions right like
whether it's VA whether it's soccer whether it's

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College whether it's Pro it's getting that game
schedule then allows you to reverse engineer right

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um and for us like yes you can't predict which
tournaments you're going to progress all the way

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through versus getting to quarters or semis but
you have to prepare for um one of my colleagues

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he is our Sports scientist he's like the worst
case scenario I'm like I hate the name of it but

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he's so right uh in that I remember when we were
prepping some players in Chicago for the World Cup

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um Don Scott was with the Women's National Team
and she's like you know Megan we got to prepare

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them for the three games they're going to face in
eight days and I was like okay so we would be at

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training and go through the training session and
I'd look at Julian and I'm like we still have a

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lot of work to do uh so it it just is that's where
load management isn't really about management it's

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about performance um and I think that that's why
sometimes even the terms matter right like if I

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call you I call your exercises before training
prehab it's like I've had an NFL player say to

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me well there's nothing wrong with me and now
you're telling me there's something wrong with

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me and if I'm like if I call it resiliency
well that's a way different psychological

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understanding of why we're doing what we're
doing um so the same can be said for like load

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management versus just performance data and this
is performance data cuz all it is not gener um

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it is not predictive data it is outcome measure
data we are literally downloading or digesting

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information after an event has happened now can we
understand based off means and averages and roles

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to predict kind of what load measures could be
down the yeah absolutely no problem but we do that

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what's the end goal so you have to have people to
ask the right questions and to understand like is

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there a problem we're trying to solve or are
we just trying to dive into different things

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and I think that for me it always starts with a
competition and trying to best prepare ourselves

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to have um the highest level of performance in
those competitions I like what you said about

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renaming thing and renaming things and that uh
language really matters I worked for Coach R Roose

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at G as a ga at University of Texas we called our
prehab daily vitamins um which for the players

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like they love that they understood the concept
okay you got to come in you got to take these

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this is part of the routine um you talked about
key metrics uh and having things be more outcome

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based so when you're looking for these outcomes
I mean what outcomes are you actually searching

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for and what metrics are actually important
to you and you're like okay like I have a good

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understanding where these people at because the
game itself there are things that happen within

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a game that they just happen but when you look
at metrics through games and performance what

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are you actually looking at yeah I mean I think
it's just like in the in the waight room right

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like volume is one indicator intensity is another
metrics fall into both those buckets that's how

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we kind of understand people and purpose intent
and adaptation you have people in the gym that

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can handle a lot of volume but they you Spice in a
little intensity and they break um or if you have

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changes in intensity they kind of hang out in this
range all of a sudden they take a little Spike

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up you're like oh wow they're wrecked they're
really sore same to be said for data management

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of performance metrics right so on the field
specifically Ally everyone in soccer is going to

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talk about running or achieving 90% Max velocity
and using that as kind of like you're saying a

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checklist I I feel like the a lot of ways people
think in soccer is like a checklist of okay we did

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this this this and this to kind of um make sure
athletes are ready to perform and it's ticking

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them over and that's unfortunately like in the
highest levels of football it's not necessarily

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about making them better it's about making them
ready um and making them ready is making them

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better because then you have player availability
for the majority of your games throughout the year

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so you've given yourself and your management the
opportunity to leverage the roster you've built

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now that being said do I believe as a performance
coach that we don't make people better throughout

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year heck no I I wouldn't be here if I'm just
like okay I'm just here to move you along through

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the process you know take take you from here to
here that's it believe that at all there's all

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the little 1% gains and for us we're together 11
and 1/2 months of the year so 11 and 1/2 months

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of 15 minutes a day is a lot um so uh it's it's I
kind of Akin it to like uh in college basketball

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in the NBA where they start started doing postgame
lifts and then pregame pre-practice lifting right

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it's like that became hey we don't need two-hour
training sessions and lifting sessions to get the

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most effective response for the least uh negative
repercussion of adaptation so meaning how much

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can we get for giving as little as possible and
I love that dance um and I think that's that's

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the fun part of working in a pro team now on the
other side of that we have um an academy system

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as well man that's where development happens
and that's where it's fun and that's where it's

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like having really good coaches and we have some
really good coach is here right now and um when

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you talk about speed development you talk about
strength development and looking at phv and all

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these different things it's like that's where you
get to have a little bit more um intricacies in

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the recipe of performance because they are at all
these different stages and it is about literally

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developing them so that we understand who is
a shot of being on this roster in six years 8

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years 10 years um so I think that performance
looks very different in a professional setting

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vers an inseason versus an offseason setting
um and I I missed the offseason setting like

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I what is it like to have a 14-week off season I
hope I never know again in Pro Sports because it

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probably means that we're doing pretty well but
do I miss that and being able to say you know

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we're going to get after it for four days a week
or five days a week absolutely uh it's just not

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the world I currently live in I could see it's
there though and you you're like you're thinking

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about it you're like man I love that part of it
totally you know people are like oh do you ever

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Miss like college football and I'm like do I miss
100 players getting better and the energy that

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comes from that and the energy from having team
runs and the energy absolutely it's way different

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having 26 versus 122 or whatever they're limited
down to now but the the capacity of what you're

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doing is different because at the end of the
day it's like being technically tactically Sharp

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efficient hitting these metrics like we talk
about and so to go to answer your question

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too just about metrics like I care about spread
distance I care about highspeed running I care

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about excels and desels over certain acceleration
zones I care about how an athlete looks when they

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move and I think that um that's the coaching eye
doesn't come out in GPS um and you know if you

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if you talk to Stu and some of these guys from
Altus and you have been around track and field

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for a long time time it's how people move changes
throughout a year um whether it's from um fatigue

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whether it's from contact whether it's from uh
specific adaptations or just compensations it's

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understanding what a player's Baseline movement is
and being able to understand how that's changing

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throughout a year and um what we're doing for that
and then on the other side that's like giving them

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different exposures so whether it's using we're
fortunate enough to have um some 1080 Sprint twos

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here to do acceleration work and getting that
across the line with our first team I think is

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been a huge check mark for us um really excited
to see that implemented versus like how much work

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we're doing with the academy um so all that looks
different but those are the intensity metrics and

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percent max speed and then on the volume side yet
total distance um and then just depends on what

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we're dealing with right like we play today then
we play Saturday and then we play two Tuesday so

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we're playing with less than 72 hours rest between
games and traveling to Mexico City um to play

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at altitude so it's like all those contextual
factors play into like is this the right time

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to push probs not like probably the right time
to play games and um manage your roster really

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well and that's where the daily decisions come in
and that's not just me that's that's a whole team

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of medical and performance together all right so
many great things uh that were said there so I'm

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going to try to break them down a one at a time
um number one I like what you said about making

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them ready and having your focus be on making them
ready not necessarily better because the reality

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is ready makes them better um and then you talked
about the academy where it seems like making them

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better actually allows them to be ready th% which
is the opposite um okay so you're getting ready

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for this week though right now which sounds
like a pretty crazy week I mean you mentioned

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the altitude you mentioned going to Mexico so um
you said you're having these conversations with

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everybody that's involved in performance so I mean
Enlighten us like what are those conversations

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like what's being said if you're able to share
or just maybe give us some insight into like I

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mean this is great this is this is a week right in
front of us right now that we can maybe talk about

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where's your head at a lot of what we talk about
are kind of the Baseline things of how are players

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sleeping and eating uh can we fill those two big
buckets you know that we have the ability to use

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things like hyperbaric chambers and saunas and C
PL and stuff like that but at the end of the day I

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want to understand are we sleeping to recover from
the demands of the games how are we traveling how

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did we make decisions around that travel and what
is the food timelines and the quality of the food

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and the types of the food so um we're really
fortunate that I work with our Chef here the

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Sounders and um you know we also have individual
understanding of player needs around nutrition

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from some work we did in preseason so we are able
to dive into that and the players have of course

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are bought into their individual needs um so with
that being said they understand that right now

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like they're eating a pretty anti-inflammatory
diet they may not call it that but they like oh

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yeah I'm eating a lot of berries um and doing
this or that and you know then we say on the

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other side of that how are you sleeping and am I
giving things to help you sleep um and adjust and

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then understanding that whether it's capturing
information through Aura and then looking back

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at that or individual player education and also
understanding just different phases of life like

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if they have kids at home it's doesn't matter
that we have a game tonight they're still going

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to do school drop off tomorrow morning um and then
just really trying to understand that as opposed

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to being like well that's not the plan the plan
doesn't matter if it doesn't fit the person um

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so the individual needs on those things and just
understanding that we've prepared these players

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as best we can through preseason through match
intensity through training to handle this this is

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where they get to show up and show off um um and
we'll handle as many parts that they'll never know

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about in terms of the travel the logistics the
decisions and of course that comes down to like

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also the room right our head coach sitting with
our high performance director and saying like this

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is the plan all the people underneath have put
in place we have to get side off on it you know

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one second hey come here golden retrievers never
cease to exist to interrup interrupt come here

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sorry about that no problem uh I like what you
said there about making sure that the plan has

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to fit the player and I think ultimately right
there like that's your Buy in the player knows

00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.800
this is made for them they know it's well thought
out you don't need to convince them that this is

00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:19.360
the best thing for them um they just see it in
action when you're having these discussions which

00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:24.600
I think was great um so let's talk about going in
Mexico I me what does that look like I mean what

00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:29.040
are the decisions you're making in the weight
room in terms of loading more loading less and

00:19:29.040 --> 00:19:35.720
and what you're thinking with this travel coming
up um I think that we play Home and Away leg of

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the same team so seeing the same opposition
and then playing anyone that knows soccer to

00:19:41.360 --> 00:19:48.040
America versus soccer uh in Mexico and what the
culture is like of going to a Central and South

00:19:48.040 --> 00:19:55.040
American country is always exciting because um
of how the fans show up and the fan the fandom

00:19:55.040 --> 00:20:01.920
in America has grown exponentially um but but
it's always a cool opportunity for that so the

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team we're going to play on short rest because we
also have a big game against a western conference

00:20:07.560 --> 00:20:13.200
opponent on the Saturday it's not you're just
trying to recover between games to be honest and

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then you're also trying to make sure you're doing
the best job for the second half of the roster so

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um in the three games you might have players that
play all three you might have players that play

00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:26.520
two you have might have players that play one you
might have players that play none so it's almost

00:20:26.520 --> 00:20:30.680
kind of thinking about it in terms of like that
starting rotation in baseball but every player

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is a starting pitcher and then how do we get
the best out of them as they move forward that

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that's who we try to be at all times and it's like
okay can we get a post game lift with this group

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of players actually can we get a little training
session with these guys here and then uh everyone

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can be on this schedule for this but then we're
going to do this for these guys here here and here

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um and that's literally how we talk is player
by player Group by group and then team by team

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okay so question for you how do you handle
disagreements then within your group you know

00:21:03.360 --> 00:21:09.000
you have this closed room of coaches and and
performance uh people and and decision makers

00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:13.320
you know how often are you disagreeing on things
um and not in a bad way just like how often are

00:21:13.320 --> 00:21:17.400
you disagreeing and ultimately like how do you
handle those decisions you know outside of the

00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:22.440
room yeah I mean at the end of the day you have
to have someone that's saying like this is the

00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:27.200
path you have to have leadership saying this is
what we're going to do um I think that within our

00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:33.680
Collective Performance Group we do a really good
job of everyone has a voice um but you also have

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and we also have a little bit of lightning in
the bottle and that a lot of the people in our

00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:43.080
roles like we've been in around performance for
a long time none of us are less than 5 years of

00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:50.960
experience um and a lot of us have over 10 and so
it's just like we have a mutual respect for each

00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:57.600
other's point of view um and it may not even just
be from experience it's also we all have different

00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:02.240
relationships with players so maybe I'm getting
piece of information from a player that you're

00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.840
not getting cuz we have different relationships
and guess what you're with them on the field every

00:22:06.840 --> 00:22:10.320
day but I'm only with them in the gym that day
and so I'm going to get something different if

00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:17.400
they're frustrated or whatever and trying to put
all that emotional context and player feedback

00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:22.120
and then looking at the plan and saying like where
where do these come together and making the best

00:22:22.120 --> 00:22:30.200
decision there but I I think that we do a really
good job of having productive disagreements um

00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.080
and like professional decorum and how to do
that and you know if you weren't passionate

00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:43.480
about your position you probably aren't going to
say anything um so we know that when we do bring

00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:49.760
something up it's probably because we have some
scientific evidence some practical application

00:22:49.760 --> 00:22:56.400
experience and then a gut feeling um so I think
that we we truly do respect each other's point of

00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:04.080
view and decisions and most comment ends up being
very similar and we realize we're like trying to

00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:13.800
shave a half% we're not 10% off so right right I
think that that's also interesting and what's your

00:23:13.800 --> 00:23:20.160
process as a organization and performance staff
for evaluating decisions after the fact right so

00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:25.320
you do all this prep work for this crazy week that
you have um when you finally have time I mean is

00:23:25.320 --> 00:23:29.680
this part of your weekly process or do you try to
make time or is at the end of the season like when

00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.880
do you actually evaluate these decisions and and
you know in hopes to make things better for the

00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:41.560
future you know I think it's a very good point
because there's no Playbook that says this is

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how you have to do pro sports you can go through a
year and have ups and downs and never do anything

00:23:48.080 --> 00:23:56.360
to look back or report or show your body of work
and um I've learned a lot from our current group

00:23:56.360 --> 00:24:04.800
on how we do that and um we do that at least three
times of year a PO we do like a preseason initial

00:24:04.800 --> 00:24:12.520
intake uh a preseason report after preseason
a mid-season and an end of year um and that's

00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:18.880
full team type of availability individual player
reporting uh Reflections and Evolutions like how

00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:24.880
how do we make things better uh and I love that
process I think that a lot of coaches have their

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:30.480
own way of doing that but having a formalized
process for that not just in performance but

00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:37.320
also in the medical space allows us to make it
medical and performance together um and then you

00:24:37.320 --> 00:24:44.640
know if it's worth doing then you probably need to
know what your departmental value emission is and

00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:50.000
then your departmental philosophy because I can
have my own philosophy as a coach but if that's

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:55.880
way over here and it's actually not in alignment
with this probably not going to be happy every

00:24:55.880 --> 00:25:03.480
day cuz and we haven't acknowledged why but if
your philosophy is a team philosophy and end of

00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:08.080
the day it's like doing what's best for the player
but then also understanding how we're going about

00:25:08.080 --> 00:25:13.080
that because we've all agreed to this thing that's
really good systems and Frameworks and that's what

00:25:13.080 --> 00:25:18.960
allows for success and again I think when people
hear systems Frameworks data they're like these

00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:27.520
people only look at reports and I'm like if people
understood it's like it's so much talking and then

00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:34.840
uh annotating and then deciding and um I don't I'm
not I am not the key decision maker at the end of

00:25:34.840 --> 00:25:42.920
the day in this role here um but I'm a key staff
member in delivering the best information possible

00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.520
up chain so that we make the best decision and
I think that's also a thing that coaches need

00:25:48.520 --> 00:25:53.200
to realize is a lot of people strive I've been a
high performance director a lot of people are like

00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:58.560
I need to be the director to make the call and
I'm like well sure okay if that's what you want

00:25:58.560 --> 00:26:02.760
do you want it just because like that's the
highest paid do you want it just because you

00:26:02.760 --> 00:26:07.320
want to be a soccer coach do you want it
like what's the actual intent there and I

00:26:07.320 --> 00:26:14.480
think that um coaches get lost along the way of
like not realizing what their true skill set is

00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.520
and saying like they're really good at that
like what if you're just really really good

00:26:18.520 --> 00:26:24.480
on field and guess what as soon as you're in more
meanings you're not going to be on field as much

00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:30.120
maybe your really good sweet spot for you is in
the rehab and return to play process and as you

00:26:30.120 --> 00:26:36.040
go up you're not in that because you're so busy
making the calls that so it's understanding what

00:26:36.040 --> 00:26:39.560
the role and the responsibilities are so that
you understand how your time is going to be

00:26:39.560 --> 00:26:47.880
spent yeah absolutely it seems like um in Pro
Sports and I mean even in the college space

00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:52.840
too you're starting to see more coaches work with
maybe one or two teams it just seems like there's

00:26:52.840 --> 00:26:58.520
more room for Specialists um now especially in
Pro organizations like hey you do this really well

00:26:58.520 --> 00:27:05.360
okay like you're hired to do this really well um
and even in college just to like I started off

00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:12.080
with multiple Sports and right my last four years
five years at Auburn I was research and women's

00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:20.560
soccer that was it and um I think that that didn't
mean that I was a specialist in soccer it meant I

00:27:20.560 --> 00:27:26.760
had a singular focus of team sport I think that
that's also where coaches maybe are falling into

00:27:26.760 --> 00:27:31.320
a trap where it's like you you don't have to be a
sport coach to be a really good performance coach

00:27:31.320 --> 00:27:38.520
at any sport so just I I did not play soccer at
a professional level I did not play soccer at a

00:27:38.520 --> 00:27:44.600
college level do I love the game absolutely um
do I try to say that I understand what it's like

00:27:44.600 --> 00:27:51.160
to Ping a 65 yard ball perfectly to a guy with a
diving header no but I feel like I understand how

00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:59.000
that good that feels um so I think that realizing
it's like instead of being a specialist it's like

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:05.680
being Universal being a performance coach is a
universal skill that we apply in these specialty

00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:11.360
lenses yeah instead of feeling like you have to
just do this and that's all you're known for it's

00:28:11.360 --> 00:28:18.720
like well what if you change you've given yourself
no range as a coach to decide guess what I'm going

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:26.440
to work track and field um guess what I know how
to help this NFL DB in the off season guess what I

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:31.600
understand speed from a whole team perspective and
it doesn't matter what sport it is I understand

00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:36.520
movement from a whole human perspective doesn't
matter who's in front of me and it's I think being

00:28:36.520 --> 00:28:43.200
Universal is way better than being a specialist I
like how you frame that um having a focus versus a

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:49.480
specialty um I I like that a lot um something you
mentioned earlier was Stu and his group there and

00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:56.600
and using your coaching instincts and blending
that with the data so my question to you is you

00:28:56.600 --> 00:29:02.080
know have you faced the situation maybe recently
where the numbers they all said something they

00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:08.720
painted a story in a certain in a certain way
but you just knew that in your gut in your coach

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:13.520
with your coaching experience that there was a
decision that needed to be made in a different

00:29:13.520 --> 00:29:20.840
direction I'll tell a story um this is one of my
favorite athletes all time she doesn't matter if

00:29:20.840 --> 00:29:26.800
I talk she doesn't care if I talk about her Sarah
Gordon is hands down one of the fastest athletes

00:29:26.800 --> 00:29:32.720
I've ever worked with she plays center back in
uh the professional women's league in America

00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:38.320
we were working together in Chicago and I remember
we were in a congestion period of three games and

00:29:38.320 --> 00:29:44.600
now you're flying commercial you don't have a chef
uh you don't have true accountability into their

00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:50.520
sleep schedule uh you have zero control over a
lot of the things that will help and you're going

00:29:50.520 --> 00:29:56.720
to drive 45 minutes to training every day and an
hour and a half on a Friday so it's like the deck

00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:05.720
stacked against right right and uh she's had a
decent output by anyone's means on the data uh in

00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:11.480
these two games and she looks after at me after
the midweek game where we've played an opponent

00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:17.480
that I know we're going to play in playoffs and
she's like I'm not tired I was like great I was

00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.600
like I'll see you in the locker room she's and I'm
doing postgame top up she's like I'm going to do

00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:27.960
Sprints and I was like well that goes against like
everything I'm thinking about for the next game

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:34.560
and I could just tell she was pent up with this
energy and emotion of excitement but also being

00:30:34.560 --> 00:30:40.320
like they they don't understand because they don't
even know and I was like this player if anyone

00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:45.360
is built for sprinting and high-speed running and
if you know anything about soccer that is not the

00:30:45.360 --> 00:30:49.920
profile of a center back um she can play fullback
as well and so I was like all right we're going

00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.360
to do this so there is nothing in literature that
says that's a wise decision given two games played

00:30:55.360 --> 00:31:03.080
and going into a third she played lights out in
the third she sometimes like what a player feels

00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:09.360
we do not separate the brain from the physiology
output there is no separation in mental and and

00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:19.160
physical output um so you have to really know
your player really well and then when you side

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:26.160
with them that's a decision that will help you
later down the road now had she like gotten hurt

00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:31.840
in the next game or something happened what I said
feel differently sure probably but at the end of

00:31:31.840 --> 00:31:38.600
the day am I still going to back in the player
that I have years of experience with and know

00:31:38.600 --> 00:31:46.880
um yeah nine times out of 10 yeah I love what
you said about players uh the players feel at

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:52.680
the end of the day they know theirselves the best
right they know their body's the best they know

00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:58.240
their capacity is the best they know how they're
feeling so to be able to tap into that um is great

00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:03.160
regardless of what maybe the numbers might say
you you talked about recovery a few times now

00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:08.160
um the and the important things that go into
it I guess if you were to zoom out and just

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:14.520
say hey this is kind of like my decision tree for
Recovery like um athlete walks in or maybe I know

00:32:14.520 --> 00:32:19.080
this information before they walk in through the
door but if you can maybe just expand on maybe

00:32:19.080 --> 00:32:24.440
what your decision tree looks like on both sides
um that would be uh really interesting to hear um

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.080
about like maybe what modality is required based
on how they're feeling yeah I think there's some

00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:33.920
coaches and some researchers that have made some
really simple Frameworks based on how you feel

00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:39.120
like if you feel heavy if you feel irritable
if you feel tired and kind of following simple

00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:45.120
decision trees from that it's literally um if
you can fill in the missing letter at the front

00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:50.320
it's hit but with an s on the front uh that that
type of framework I think works really well cuz

00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:55.720
it's player Le you're just like what do you feel
and they're like this this and this and this and

00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:04.920
I'm like great all four so do everything no um I a
lot of it is again reverse engineering off of that

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:10.400
scheduled timeline right like we're not probably
using the infrared sauna or sauna Match Day minus

00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.160
one because I care more about hydration at that
point and trying to get the carbs we need to be

00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:23.160
able to fuel appropriately for a game logic um
days after we have an extensive day on the field

00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.040
and we lift trying to encourage them that's a
great day for Assa and the extra work we need

00:33:28.040 --> 00:33:32.200
because I need you to wait 45 minutes before
you're exposing yourself to cold so we really

00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:38.680
get the strength adaptations we want science Logic
on Match Day minus 4 when it's predominantly upper

00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.480
body do I care if they're still sore three days
after a game in a typical week if they contrast

00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:49.400
early or getting cold because they're stiff sore
irritable tired no logic so a lot of times it's

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.240
just building a robust enough framework where
the player knows um and then players getting

00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.760
their own intuitive habits um I in something
you said earlier I'm I'm going to actually push

00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:05.200
back against and that a lot of players don't know
their body that's part of our job especially when

00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.960
they're younger because you got to remember our
players come in and sometimes they're 16 and it's

00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.320
like they're still growing into their body and
they're like they feel something they don't know

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:23.440
the difference in between like severe pain injury
and Doms and stiff and it's like it's really

00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.880
that's where like doing a simple questionnaire and
I totally get if I'm in in a college setting or

00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.040
working one-on-one with someone that might look
different but having them fill out information

00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:37.640
about themselves and then being able to provide
that reflective piece for them of how they're

00:34:37.640 --> 00:34:42.880
saying they feel all the time that's them talking
about themselves so that they start to make that

00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.720
connection as opposed to just it being up to
the day because emotions are so triggered into

00:34:47.720 --> 00:34:52.320
how the body feels when we win tonight and it's
going to be a great game I'm just speaking that

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.120
into existence how our players will feel soreness
wise will be less than if we didn't didn't have

00:34:58.120 --> 00:35:04.040
that result so that's where we also have to have
understanding of context it's um everyone knows

00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:11.600
after a loss soreness hurts more Nicks and little
contusions and things like that it's different so

00:35:11.600 --> 00:35:16.240
um I think that it's also our job to help a player
understand how their body is responding if they

00:35:16.240 --> 00:35:21.800
don't have the best and it's like every time after
sprinting your left hamstring feels a little this

00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:26.880
or that but you don't want to do any prep the next
day it's like here's how I'm gonna help you I'm

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:32.840
gonna help you gain some context into what I see
you saying is a presentation and I'm saying it's a

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:38.960
pattern I appreciate you pushing back on
it because as I was saying it I was almost

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.800
pushing back on myself I worked in in college
baseball um and I was just laughing because

00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.680
there's a few people that come to mind right
that I used to work with and I'm not going

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:52.320
to mention them by name but really in that
population and even just Collegiate athletes

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.640
I I do agree with you younger athletes
don't know themselves as well um and

00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:04.920
baseball athletes are like on this constant
search of like every single little thing like

00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:09.400
what does this mean what does that mean but um
yeah I I agree I think older athletes I think

00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.680
I was really you know thinking about these older
more experienced athletes um really understanding

00:36:14.680 --> 00:36:19.440
themselves better than maybe some younger athletes
but on that point um every time you fill out a

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:24.160
questionnaire every time you ask somebody how
they're doing you are in essence educating them

00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:28.360
on like these are the things that you should be
thinking about so my question to is really what's

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:34.720
the importance of you know education I imagine
you value it a ton um but really like are you

00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:39.640
conscious about certain moments of the day where
you're like this time is going to be time blocked

00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:44.360
and dedicated towards education um or is it more
of this kind of like natural flow throughout your

00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:52.840
day-to-day yeah I mean I think in in an ideal
world it's like okay we're going to sit down

00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.800
and once a week we're going to educate the team
on this topic no that's not how it works in for

00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.920
sports I think that that speaks more to that
Academy and developmental side is how much can

00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:08.800
we teach them all the things like when we designed
this new facility their wait room has the similar

00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.440
equipment to us so that as they come up and then
eventually into a first team they already know

00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:20.800
how this feels familiar so how can we make things
feel familiar from a environmental standpoint to

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:26.320
where the education is done when they're 12 and
not when they're 20 um I think on the the flip

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:34.400
side of that is the individual meetings versus
the team I think with I had uh our former intern

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:41.560
who's now our Academy coach shout out Katie um
to a presentation and I stole this idea from a

00:37:41.560 --> 00:37:48.880
coach friend of mine shout out hoodie um on the
difference between gen Z and gen Alpha and I was

00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:57.840
like how do we best understand what's coming and I
see that play out in terms of individual oneon-one

00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:04.480
information about themselves has a really high
correlation of being taken on as things they need

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:10.080
to do and then they drive that whereas if I just
send a general thing out I'm like hey here's this

00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:17.160
thing they're like okay cool and that that's it
because it has no connection to them so I think

00:38:17.160 --> 00:38:23.120
the basics like when we talk about nutrition
like a timeline pre-match minus one daily flow

00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:29.320
it's like okay that's a helpful reminder but when
we talk about individual needs changing your diet

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.400
your lifestyle you just moved from a different
country I need to understand your needs I need to

00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:37.840
understand your family Dynamic of how many people
are we feeding are you cooking for kids and then

00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.480
for yourself or you just eating your kids chicken
nuggets like those are the Dynamics of the things

00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:47.920
that have to be an individual conversation and
that has to come from a relationship if I'm asking

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that day one of a player it's like that's bad on
me because they've just probably done a medical

00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:58.120
intake a performance T intake and assessment and
now you're going to sit down and try and get to

00:38:58.120 --> 00:39:03.440
this really deep meaningful information they're
fried because they've tried to show up and bring

00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:10.200
the juice right um so I I think it's understanding
the person in front of you and good things take

00:39:10.200 --> 00:39:17.400
time um SO waiting on that relationship by honing
in on it every day and how do you hone in on it

00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.840
it's just being authentically yourself and showing
up in your role I don't have to be anything other

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than what my role is every day and by doing that
every day for 11 and 1/2 months they realize I'm

00:39:29.600 --> 00:39:34.200
going to be the same person that's like I'll see
you after a film for Activation I'm going to be

00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:39.040
the same person that sees you after the field it's
like great reminder did you have your protein and

00:39:39.040 --> 00:39:45.760
your creatine great let's do these things and
you become that consistent theme that's just

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part of what they do and when you're consistent
you can add little things to it and that's where

00:39:50.680 --> 00:39:57.560
I try and go is the consistency of the individual
versus the team I love what you mentioned there

00:39:57.560 --> 00:40:03.920
and some things stood out to me some words
authenticity connection consistency and

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.440
patience like you understand these things are
important these are important conversations

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.280
that you're going to be having doesn't mean you
need to have them immediately I really I really

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.800
thought that that was um well said and then it
connects back to something else you said earlier

00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:22.360
which is context like two players that are the
same age with the same skill set have maybe two

00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.320
completely different lives at home and how they
adapt to stress might be completely different y

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and and there support for those things yeah
no that's great and um I'm curious a moment

00:40:35.120 --> 00:40:42.680
of reflection here for you um young coach Megan
like year one year two right out of GA like are

00:40:42.680 --> 00:40:48.360
are these the kinds of things that you were
expecting to drive your coaching principles

00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:53.080
philosophies whatever term you want to use um
and as you kind of reflect back on what that

00:40:53.080 --> 00:40:58.840
person was like and that coach was like I mean are
you kind of excited about where you're at now I

00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:04.480
don't think the coach has changed at all just the
context and the experience I think that the way I

00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:11.720
went about things then still had an underpinning
of connection she that coach though she probably

00:41:11.720 --> 00:41:19.520
cared a lot more about her Excel sheets being
tidy um back then where um now that technology

00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:25.840
is allowed a lot a lot of those things to automate
so I get to be more about the connection piece um

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:32.360
so if anything I think that instead of that being
a part of it it's like oh that's the majority

00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:39.280
piece curious now too with all of your experience
and it seems like you're pretty dialed in with

00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.320
every you know kind of your day-to-day what things
are you interested in terms of training where do

00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.240
you think maybe training might be going I mean
you have your everything you're doing now with

00:41:49.240 --> 00:41:53.000
your team but then maybe you're like looking and
thinking okay in the future it may look a little

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.880
bit something like this is there anything that
kind of um strike is striking you or or you're

00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:07.640
curious about couple things I think that um
if you look at Fitness trends like as a whole

00:42:07.640 --> 00:42:15.160
the early 2000s was like the Revival of Olympic
lifts through CrossFit um if you look at what's

00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:20.800
happening now is like everyone's now a hybrid
athlete or into high rocks but also you have this

00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:25.840
underpinning movement of machines are awesome
so I'm loving seeing like from the old from a

00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.720
bodybuilding perspective that's trickling into Pro
Sports there's way more machines than there used

00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:37.040
to be and it's like oh yeah these serve a purpose
and but we've become super complex right like the

00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:43.200
Keiser is actually a good example the a400 line of
what we have being able to see range of motion and

00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:48.000
then record that data on an individual player and
see the load difference left to right like that's

00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.200
fascinating the ability to have those things so
it's not just a weight stack right like we've

00:42:53.200 --> 00:43:01.120
gotten I can nerd out with any now um in the
weight room as opposed to vbt used to be solely

00:43:01.120 --> 00:43:06.320
for a trap bar deadlift and now it's like oh no
it's on our belt squats on our leg extensions on

00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:15.440
our leg curl it's so we've gotten the ability
to be less complex but meet a complicated need

00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.680
in terms of rehab or specific need whether it's a
tendonopathy or muscular skeletal injury and like

00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:27.640
return from those things I think that that's been
awesome because it's like I am still performance

00:43:27.640 --> 00:43:32.640
coach but I have better tools it's like I have
a little GPS in every machine for the sports

00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:38.600
scientist out there it's now we can talk and dial
in that load that intensity that range and look

00:43:38.600 --> 00:43:43.680
at all of these things and then Tempo is not our
only tool load is not our only tool that we have

00:43:43.680 --> 00:43:49.200
in our toolkit anymore I'm laughing because
I'm thinking about when I was coming up as a

00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:55.200
strength conditioning coach and I was looking at
you know uh internship opportunities gas you're

00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:58.640
looking at websites and you're thinking about
like what's your philosophy like that question

00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:04.280
or what are your principles and um so many of
the websites for Olympic sports like were so

00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:11.120
similar in terms of like um Department philosophy
it was like we use we Implement like groundbased

00:44:11.120 --> 00:44:18.800
multi-joint movements you know um and I kind of
laugh yeah and I just kind of laugh at that now

00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:24.000
um at the idea of that that it it was almost like
oh this one person had it so now this is just what

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.960
we write because we're supposed to do this and
that's athleticism and I started laughing about

00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:34.760
it when you mentioned machines making a comeback
um certainly at Keiser you know machines have been

00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:40.240
around for a very long time but um yeah Olympic
lifting was like really really really big and

00:44:40.240 --> 00:44:45.680
these multi-joint groundbased movements because
sports are groundbased movements but then machines

00:44:45.680 --> 00:44:49.800
kind of make a re-entrance where it's like okay
well what's the goal of our training like what

00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:55.520
do we what what is adaptation what adaptation are
we seeking and like can we measure it and can we

00:44:55.520 --> 00:45:03.080
measure it objectively and and can we retest for
it and is this you know can we maybe accept that

00:45:03.080 --> 00:45:08.480
adaptation at in one specific spot might have a
more Global adaptation somewhere else you know

00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:13.560
I think part of what the reason that happened too
just like context for younger coaches it may have

00:45:13.560 --> 00:45:19.920
not have been around is before when machines were
in like a football weight room it was probably

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:26.960
high-intensity training and you can shout out the
guys that were doing this in the 80s and '90s and

00:45:27.560 --> 00:45:36.160
they were pushing time-based intervals or rep
based schemes of high volume high intensity

00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:43.040
and um with short Restorations and so you
can imagine this is where a lot of like the

00:45:43.040 --> 00:45:49.440
negative side of where strength coaches were
perceived came from and so I think that's why

00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:57.040
we kind of said oh machines are bad no tool
is bad until it's given the wrong purpose

00:45:57.040 --> 00:46:03.640
yeah and so then that's where people were also
understanding like mus muscles are one part of

00:46:03.640 --> 00:46:08.720
the body movement is also really important so
I feel like it just kind of swung all the way

00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:14.680
the other way and coaches were like I need to
just look at whatever and I love abandoned ankle

00:46:14.680 --> 00:46:20.640
distraction and you know like I'm super into
what Kelly was building in the early 2000s and

00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:26.920
being in 2010 and trying to you know use those
tool they're all tools what's the purpose and

00:46:27.520 --> 00:46:33.560
what's the need of the person in front of
you and I think that now when you ask a

00:46:33.560 --> 00:46:39.280
departmental philosophy hopefully it's not just a
training philosophy yeah right like it used to be

00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.560
we're high-intensity training we're Olympic
lifting we're movement based ground up I'm

00:46:42.560 --> 00:46:50.160
like how about like yeah we all train humans
okay no one's training it okay great so what

00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:55.320
is it you care about in the human perspective
and how do you attack that and then what are

00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:02.560
the principles of your philosophy because a
philosophy has no purpose if it has no tools

00:47:02.560 --> 00:47:11.160
right um I was grabbing I have my yeah I have
that and and a bunch of other ones underneath

00:47:11.160 --> 00:47:17.280
here but I I you had mentioned that one by name
so I figured I'd pull out where um look I like

00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.360
what you said like every tool is a tool and
it's only the wrong tool if it's used in the

00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.840
wrong way or it's serving the wrong purpose and
is the answer maybe a little bit of everything

00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:32.440
maybe uh it depends on the person I suppose but
I like that you had some principles related to

00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.960
your training your recovery but then also like
you talked about it's the human in front of you

00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:41.120
and you actually have a lot of principles related
to like this human interaction and maybe how that

00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:45.880
is communicated so I really appreciate that aspect
of it as well and it doesn't for you just doesn't

00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:51.760
end at X's and O's of maybe physiology yeah
yeah I mean I think that you have to have the

00:47:51.760 --> 00:48:00.240
underpinning education right to be in the room and
maybe may maybe a connection someone helps you get

00:48:00.240 --> 00:48:06.960
a job but it's what you know and how you execute
that keeps you a job um and that's why like I love

00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:16.040
the sport coaching world and what it's what it
offers a coach because it isn't I think the people

00:48:16.040 --> 00:48:21.720
that are in it chasing working for a certain team
or badge they're out of it just as fast as they

00:48:21.720 --> 00:48:27.560
come into it hopefully um because they realize
like that that'll burn you out because it is 11

00:48:27.560 --> 00:48:33.520
and 1/2 months you know we're talking now so that
I can head into early rehab then have a game it's

00:48:33.520 --> 00:48:40.040
like that that's not oh that's not Glitz and Glam
the anyone that works in the NBA can tell you they

00:48:40.040 --> 00:48:45.960
see more of the undersides of stadiums than the
courts of stadiums right like we see the wires

00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:54.440
in the concrete not where the fans are with the
Jumbotron so sport is is the entertainment for

00:48:54.440 --> 00:49:00.400
the world but it's the the purpose and which
we've decided to work in and um to do that you

00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.480
have to really want to do it because there is
a lot of Demands and push and pull and you're

00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:10.160
still dealing with players and personalities and
they're not you don't get to tell them what to do

00:49:10.160 --> 00:49:16.640
you get to invite them and when you invite people
man that's awesome because then it's also their

00:49:16.640 --> 00:49:21.800
decision and then that's a really cool culture
when it just trickles down it's like I'm going

00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:27.080
to invite you to do what we think is best for
you um and if you have a different op opinion

00:49:27.080 --> 00:49:33.040
you voice that great and a lot of times it comes
across not like in a nice little dialogue right

00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:38.880
it's emotion at the end of a game it's like what
do you mean you had a and I'm like great do you

00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:44.120
want to do this they're like yeah I'm like okay
uh so you just have to be able to read between

00:49:44.120 --> 00:49:49.400
the emotions to actually understand what they're
saying not how they're saying it yeah awesome

00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:54.760
well said I mean packed a lot here into 50 minutes
um just some things I want to close with here if

00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.880
someone wants to reach out to you um coach Megan
Young what's the best place for them to reach out

00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:08.040
to you excuse me where is the best place yeah um
probably just social media the you know you can

00:50:08.040 --> 00:50:15.520
find me on Instagram just coach Mega strong um and
I'm not I'm not huge on social media but I have a

00:50:15.520 --> 00:50:21.160
social media so reach out to me there awesome
well a huge huge thank you to Seattle Sounders

00:50:21.160 --> 00:50:26.840
FC performance coach coach Megan Young for joining
me today in the Keiser Human Performance podcast

00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:32.520
as she had mentioned please show her some love and
follow her on IG at coach meast strong on behalf

00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:37.200
of the Keiser and the human performance world
we appreciate your time thank you so much um